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#1 07 Jun 2006 12:59

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Html Validator for Firefox and Mozilla

Most of you have saw my sites before and realize and I am not big on keeping them validated.  Well, I recently read an article by Kevin Yank on SitePoint about his girlfriends recent project for school and found a link to a very cool tool for Firefox:

HTML VALIDATOR (based on Tidy and OpenSP)
http://users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/

I downloaded it and I like it a lot smile


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#2 07 Jun 2006 13:05

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Re: Html Validator for Firefox and Mozilla

Ironically, just saw this tool today as well on the same blog entry. wink

However, I am fine with Alt+Command+V. smile


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#3 07 Jun 2006 14:07

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Yeah, I've checked this out in the past. smile


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#4 07 Jun 2006 14:12

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i am going to check this bad boy out


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#5 07 Jun 2006 19:05

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Re: Html Validator for Firefox and Mozilla

Cool.  It is great.  I haven't tested out the feature that helps you clean up your coding, but I will be soon and I need it wink


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#6 08 Jun 2006 0:21

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Re: Html Validator for Firefox and Mozilla

Haha, but Jessica's experience is pretty much a plug for HTML Utopia: Designing Without Tables Using CSS, 2nd Edition, so much so that I am now considering buying it. Gah.


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#7 08 Jun 2006 6:26

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I do have the first edition, and it is very good.  I would imagine the second edition is better as Andrews is a much better author.


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#8 08 Jun 2006 12:06

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Re: Html Validator for Firefox and Mozilla

Haha, but Jessica's experience is pretty much a plug for HTML Utopia: Designing Without Tables Using CSS, 2nd Edition, so much so that I am now considering buying it. Gah.

Yeah, my thoughts exactly, but Kevin did a great job on the plug!  lol.  I bought HTML Utopia: Designing Without Tables Using CSS, 2nd Edition a few weeks ago but haven't had time to start it.


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#9 08 Jun 2006 16:02

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it's alright. my only faults on site is that pictures do not have alt tags, cant be bothered changing that lol


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#10 08 Jun 2006 16:19

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I for one, think that alt tags should not be required.  Some images really need no equivalent in text-based browsers, just do not show the image.  Things likes tiny arrow icons or something does not need a description, as they are clearly for presentation.  However, things like photos and navigational images need to be described correctly.

I try and keep the non-alt-needing images inserted using CSS, so I can avoid providing a useless alt description.


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#11 08 Jun 2006 17:41

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Re: Html Validator for Firefox and Mozilla

or just use a blank alt tag

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#12 08 Jun 2006 19:38

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Re: Html Validator for Firefox and Mozilla

Things likes tiny arrow icons or something does not need a description, as they are clearly for presentation.

That is essentially taken care of by :before, :after and content:"" in CSS though.

Last edited by Frenzie (08 Jun 2006 19:39)


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#13 09 Jun 2006 7:43

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Yes, but the factor that if I want to include it inside of my markup and not my CSS I have to add either a blank alt tag or something like "icon" for it.


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#14 12 Jun 2006 8:58

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Re: Html Validator for Firefox and Mozilla

I bought HTML Utopia: Designing Without Tables Using CSS, 2nd Edition a few weeks ago but haven't had time to start it.

I was hoping you would give a review, heh smile

Any other books worth getting from sitepoint, like "The CSS Anthology: 101 Essential Tips, Tricks & Hacks"?


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#15 12 Jun 2006 10:03

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Re: Html Validator for Firefox and Mozilla

PHP anthology is really good.

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#16 12 Jun 2006 10:18

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Re: Html Validator for Firefox and Mozilla

Ethan wrote:

Yes, but the factor that if I want to include it inside of my markup and not my CSS I have to add either a blank alt tag or something like "icon" for it.

You could use a UTF-8 character wrapped in some span and replace it with a background...


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#17 12 Jun 2006 14:58

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http://www.lowter.com/articles/241
http://www.lowter.com/articles/236

We have reviewed both of their CSS books and they are fantastic.

I also have No Nonsense XML, Firefox Secrets, DHTML Utopia, and the PHP Anthology.

I have heard a lot of good stuff about The JavaScript Anthology, which I will probably purchase later.  They also have upcoming books about AJAX and essential checklist, which both look great.

If you are looking to purchase any of these (which I recommend, they are fantastic), you could always support Lowter by purchasing them via this link:

http://www.sitepoint.com/launch/9cf5ace

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#18 12 Jun 2006 23:38

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Re: Html Validator for Firefox and Mozilla

Or support me and purchase them with my link wink

PHP anthology is really good.

I might have to check that out.  I think I'm more of a programming guy over design.

Ethan, any idea when SitePoint is going to sell those shirts again?


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#19 13 Jun 2006 6:04

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Ethan, any idea when SitePoint is going to sell those shirts again?

Due to their history with the shirts, never.  It took them nearly six months after that competition just to get them out to the public.  Then they sold out because they did not purchase enough.

I might have to check that out.  I think I'm more of a programming guy over design.

Then I would highly recommend their XML book as well (XML + PHP).

Personally, the book of theirs I use the most is DHTML Utopia.


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